The heresy of Christianity of heretics (protestantism and orthodoxy)
by mr. Pivarunas ("CMRI") disguised as a bishop
It probably hath started with this article https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/m013rpProtestantsChristians.html
The article of mr. Pivarunas disguised as a bishop http://www.cmri.org/97prog4.htm
"In this ecumenical age, when the modern hierarchy “bends over backwards” to seek a false unity amongst all religions (Christian and non-Christian alike), all are lovingly received and recognized. Isn’t it ironic that any and all religions are accepted by the Church of Vatican II as long as they are not traditional Roman Catholic ?"
Neither protestantism nor orthodoxy is Christianity.
Encyclical "Mystici Corporis Christi" of Pope Pius XII from 29 June 1943.
"6. (...) This is a testimony to the wonderful union existing among Christians; (...)"
https://www.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_29061943_mystici-corporis-christi.html
Allocution of Pope Pius XII to Irish pilgrims from 8 October 1957. "Discorso di sua santita Pio PP. XII al pellegrinaggio nazionale d'Irlandaia nel III centenario di luca wadding":
"To be Christian one must be Roman; one must recognize the oneness of Christ's Church, that is governed by one successor of the Prince of the Apostles, who is the Bishop of Rome, Christ's Vicar on earth."
https://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/speeches/1957/documents/hf_p-xii_spe_19571008_pellegrinaggio-irlanda.html
Vatican Council (1870) - Session IV, the Dogmatic Constitution PASTOR AETERNUS, Rome 18/07/1870.
"(...) When the Bishop of Rome speaks ex cathedra, that is, when exercising the office of shepherd and teacher of ALL CHRISTIANS, (...)"
Calling heretics Christians is consistent with the heresy of modernists, of sect 1958 (also present in the excerpt of the antidogmatic anticonstitution "Lumen gentium" of "Second Vatican Council") saying that the Church of Christ subsists (instead of "is") in the Catholic Church, i.e. that besides the Catholic Church there are also other churches (e.g. protestant and orthodox) belonging to the Church of Christ - it is a real devilry. (Chapter I, the whole second paragraph from the end) http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html
Saint John Chrysostom, Father of the Church and Doctor of the Church, Bishop
- so-called Polish
"Nic tak nie gubi Chrześcijan jak to, że tych za Chrześcijan uważają, którzy się za takich przedstawiają. Jeśli to niezawodna, że są fałszywi chrześcijanie, to albo on jest fałszywym Chrześcijaninem albo ty. Jeśli nie ty, to on; jeśli ty, to nie on. Jeśli on, to po co go masz za Chrześcijanina, skoro wiadomo: że chrześcijaninem nie jest, kogo Bóg za swego syna nie uznaje. Jakże ty masz go za brata ?".
ultramontes.pl/Chryzostom_1.htm
- so-called English, this is not English. The best proof of this is The Smaller Catechism of Saint Cardinal Robert Bellarmin Bishop and Doctor of the Church https://isidore.co/calibre#book_id=4363&panel=book_details , England hath not existed since December 11, 1688.
"Nothing loses Christians as this that they consider those as Christians who present themselves Christians to be such. If it is reliable that there are false Christians, then either he is a false Christian or you. If not you, then he; if you, then not he. If he, then why do you consider him as a Christian, since it is known: that he is not a Christian, whom God does not recognize as His son. How so do you consider him as a brother ?"
To translate the so-called Polish contents (if you want) use a translator (translation more or less) https://translate.google.pl/?hl=pl#view=home&op=translate&sl=pl&tl=en
In reference to the Encyclical of Pope Pius XI Mortalium Animos
There are not Christian Churches outside the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church is the Christian Church (only and exclusively).
http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_19280106_mortalium-animos.html
point 6 "... they understand a visible Church as nothing else than a Federation, composed of various communities of Christians, even though they adhere to different doctrines, which may even be incompatible one with another." - the Pope writes that in their understanding point 7 "7. And here it seems opportune to expound and to refute a certain false opinion, on which this whole question, as well as that complex movement by which non-Catholics seek to bring about the union of the Christian churches depends." - The Pope means here that from the perspective and in the understanding of non-Catholics, that they claim that there are other Christian Churches outside the Catholic Church as modernists now think of protestants and orthodoxes as Christians and pray for unity with them. The Pope could not mean that, for example, protestants are Christians because it would be a heresy and this is impossible.
In reference to the Apostolic Letter of Pope Pius IX Iam vos Omnes
https://novusordowatch.org/pius9-iam-vos-omnes/
"We therefore address this Our Letter to all Christians separated from Us, (...)"
Maybe it is about Christians who were them in the past and "seperated from Us" and "all Christians separated from Us" in the past are not Christians.
Or maybe it lacks a word "former" before "Christians" or instead of a word "Christians" (or words "Christians separated from Us") there is a word "the baptized" like in the so-called Polish translation of the Catechism of Saint Pope Pius X (Warszawa 1908, "Imprimatur" from 1906) regarding the definition of heretics about which below. I do not have a reliable source of this Apostolic Letter.
I see no obstacles in my two above interpretations despite that the Pope writes to heretics.
The Pope thus calling heretics ("Christians separated from Us") draws attention here that they were Christians and they can be them again if they give up their heresies and return to the Church of Christ.
This diplomacy of the Pope probably aimed to facilitate the conversion of heretics.
It seems to me that hard terms are not very encouraging for conversion.
In reference to the Catechism of Cardinal Gasparri
Page 63 of the Catechism and 46 on the bar
https://archive.org/details/GasparriTheCatholicCatechism1932/page/n45
III. Catechism for adults, Chapter I, the Sign of the Cross
One can not understand points (2) and (3) separately. The indissolubility of point (2) with point (3) is indicated by footnote 32 in point (2), so I see no heresy here, but it is vaguely described and can be used by enemies of the Catholic Church or by lost persons. There is no such thing as 2 understandings of the word "a Christian":
1. in the broader sense
2. in the exact and full sense
Moreover, the condition of the infallibility of Bishops (Cardinals and the other Clergy too) is remaining in the unity of the Creed with the Pope.
Page 106 and 107 of the Catechism and 68 on the bar, question (159)
Hypothetically, if heretics are Christians in the broader sense according to the misinterpretation of the above definition of the word "a Christian" from this Catechism then why in the definition of heretics there is no mention that they are Christians as it is in the so-called Polish translation of the Catechism of Saint Pope Pius X (Warsaw 1908, "Imprimatur" from 1906) in which are at least 3 heresies regarding the infallibility of the Pope, the definition of heretics and the definition of usury, about which below.
I still would like to mention that in the so-called Polish translation of the Catechism of Saint Pope Pius X (Warszawa 1908, "Imprimatur" from 1906) are at least 3 heresies regarding the infallibility of the Pope, the definition of heretics and the definition of usury.
Larger Catechism, please use this program to open and view these types of files https://windjview.sourceforge.io/
http://www.ultramontes.pl/sw_pius_x_katechizmy.htm
Page 50 (83 on the bar)
- so-called Polish
"P. Kiedy Papież jest nieomylny ?
O. Papież jest nieomylny wtedy tylko, kiedy jako Pasterz i Nauczyciel wszystkich chrześcijan, z mocy najwyższego apostolskiego urzędu swojego, orzeka jakąś naukę, tyczącą się wiary i obyczajów, której cały Kościół trzymać się powinien."
- so-called English, this is not English. The best proof of this is The Smaller Catechism of Saint Cardinal Robert Bellarmin Bishop and Doctor of the Church https://isidore.co/calibre#book_id=4363&panel=book_details , England hath not existed since December 11, 1688.
Q. When is the Pope infallible ?
A. The Pope is infallible then only, when as the Shepherd and Teacher of all Christians, he defines, by virtue of his supreme apostolic office, a teaching regarding faith and morals which the whole Church should adhere to.
As we know, not "then only", this is contrary to the teaching of the Catholic Church.
Infallibility of the Pope in the solemn Magisterium or by the ordinary and universal Magisterium.
Encyclical of Pope Pius XII "Humani Generis" (1950)
w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_12081950_humani-generis.html
"20. Nor must it be thought that what is expounded in Encyclical Letters does not of itself demand consent, since in writing such Letters the Popes do not exercise the supreme power of their Teaching Authority. For these matters are taught with the ordinary teaching authority, of which it is true to say: "He who heareth you, heareth me";[3] and generally what is expounded and inculcated in Encyclical Letters already for other reasons appertains to Catholic doctrine. But if the Supreme Pontiffs in their official documents purposely pass judgment on a matter up to that time under dispute, it is obvious that that matter, according to the mind and will of the Pontiffs, cannot be any longer considered a question open to discussion among theologians."
"[3] Luke, X, 16"
Code of Canon Law 1917, Canon 1323
https://ia800900.us.archive.org/12/items/newcanonlaw00woywuoft/newcanonlaw00woywuoft.pdf
"1166. By Divine and Catholic faith must be believed all those truths contained in the written or traditional Word of God, and which are either in solemn judgment or by the ordinary and universal teaching authority, proposed to our belief by the Church, as Divinely revealed truths. (...) ( Canon 1323. )"
Encyclical of Pope Leon XIII "Providentissimus Deus" of 18 November 1893
http://rodzinakatolicka.pl/leon-xiii-providentissimus-deus-o-studiach-pisma-swietego/
"A Catholic commentator should consider it a special and sacred duty that those texts of the Holy Scriptures whose meaning has been authentically explained, either by holy authors under the inspiration of Holy Spirit, as is the case in many places in the New Testament, or also by the Church with the assistance of the same Holy Spirit, or "by solemn proclamation, or also in ordinary and common teaching" (26), (...)"
From "CMRI" website
cmri.org/96prog5.htm
cmri.org/primer.html
But there is no heresy in below so-called English translation of the Catechism of Saint Pope Pius X (page 31 and 30 on the bar, question 57)
https://archive.org/details/CatechismOfSaintPopePiuxXTheSt.PiusX/page/n29
"57 Q. When is the Pope infallible ?
A. The Pope is infallible when, as Pastor and Teacher of all Christians and in virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by all the Church."
Page 56 (86 on the bar)
- so-called Polish
"P. Kto to są heretycy czyli kacerze ?
O. Heretycy czyli kacerze są to chrześcijanie, którzy przeczą upornie jakiejś prawdzie, którą Bóg objawił a Kościół katolicki podaje za artykuł wiary - jakimi są aryanie, nestoryanie, rozmaite sekty protestanckie i inne."
- so-called English, this is not English. The best proof of this is The Smaller Catechism of Saint Cardinal Robert Bellarmin Bishop and Doctor of the Church https://isidore.co/calibre#book_id=4363&panel=book_details , England hath not existed since December 11, 1688.
Q. Who are heretics this is cathers ? (a word "cathers" means an another term for heretics - my footnote)
A. Heretics this is cathers are Christians who obstinately deny some truth that God revealed and the Catholic Church gives for the article of faith - which are arians, nestorians, various protestant sects and other.
But there is no heresy in below so-called English translation of the Catechism of Saint Pope Pius X (page 35 and 34 on the bar, question 14)
https://archive.org/details/CatechismOfSaintPopePiuxXTheSt.PiusX/page/n33
"14 Q. Who are heretics ?
A. Heretics are those of the baptized who obstinately refuse to believe some truth revealed by God and taught as an article of faith by the Catholic Church; for example, the Arians, the Nestorians and the various sects of Protestants."
At the bottom of the page 106 (111 on the bar)
- so-called Polish
"P. Kiedy popełnia się lichwa ?
O. Popełnia się lichwa, kiedy kto, korzystając z trudnego położenia lub niewiadomości bliźniego, wymaga od niego wbrew prawu i słuszności wysokiego zysku od wypożyczonych mu pieniędzy.
- so-called English, this is not English. The best proof of this is The Smaller Catechism of Saint Cardinal Robert Bellarmin Bishop and Doctor of the Church https://isidore.co/calibre#book_id=4363&panel=book_details , England hath not existed since December 11, 1688.
Q. When is usury committed?
A. Usury is committed when someone, taking advantage of a difficult situation or ignorance of a neighbor, requires from him against the law and the rightness of a high profit from lent him money.
As we know, this is contrary to God's Law the Gospel according to St. Luke [6:35] and with the teaching of the Catholic Church e.g. the Encyclical of Pope Benedict XIV Vix Pervenit because one can not lend at any interest even low (not only high profit as above heresy proclaims) and regardless of the financial status of the borrower.
But there is no heresy in below so-called English translation of the Catechism of Saint Pope Pius X (page 96 and 94 on the bar, question 11)
https://archive.org/details/CatechismOfSaintPopePiuxXTheSt.PiusX/page/n93
"11 Q. How is usury committed ?
A. Usury is committed by exacting, without just title, an unlawful interest for money lent, thus taking an unfair advantage of another's need or ignorance."
The argumentation also appears that "Christians" this is a common or conventional language.
The question arises - Does a heresy is a common or conventional language and that is why one can use it ?
It is probably possible that in this way one can justify professing many, if not most, or all heresies and create a new false religion. This is not serious. It is a real devilry.
Because protestants are not pagans therefore the Catholic Church hath called them heretics because they were validly baptized, and a heretic can not be a Christian because the Holy Baptism is inextricably linked to professing the True Faith, so protestants can not call themselves Christians because of the reception of the valid Holy Baptism. Why did the Catholic Church not leave the name "Christians" for them when the name "Catholics" appeared and just remained with the name "heretic" ? Why would the Catholic Church start to call heretics Christians and confirm them in error, thereby acting to their detriment for the Salvation of their souls ? It does not make sense.
The definition of the words "Christianity", "Christians", "a Christian" can not evolve because it is modernism.